Question on valid aircraft for Light sport training

Here’s the question:

I have a friend with a Piper Chereokee that says i can use his plane for my training to get my Light Sport flight training. Up until solo I can do this right?” -Chris

You can do part of your training in an airplane that is not a light sport but not all of it. Based on the following information, we at Third Coast Aviation LLC (‘TCA’) recommend that you do all of your Light Sport Aircraft license training in a light sport aircraft, that way you are ready for your solo flights and check ride, and you are familiar with the airplane. Jumping back and forth from one airplane to another will only add time to your training and confuse things.

Further Details

As a sport pilot student, you won’t be able to fly solo in an aircraft that does not meet the definition of a LSA.  You also may not take the sport pilot practical test in an aircraft that does not meet the LSA definition.

Privileges and limitations of a sport pilot are found in subpart J of 14 CFR Part 61. The section regarding aircraft that sport pilots are allowed to fly (which would include solo flying by student sport pilots) can be found in 61.315. And since the applicant is acting as pilot in command during a practical test, these limitations would also apply to the aircraft being used for that practical test.

Here is the link to this answer on another site.

FAR 61.313 on category and class

§61.313 What aeronautical experience must I have to apply for a sport pilot certificate

Use the following table to determine the aeronautical experience you must have to apply for a sport pilot certificate:

If you are applying for a sport pilot certificate with Airplane category and single-engine land or sea class privileges…

Then you must log at least 20 hours of flight time, including at least 15 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in a single-engine airplane and at least 5 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in §61.311, which must include at least . . .

  • (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training,
  •  (ii) 10 takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport,
  • (iii) One solo cross-country flight of at least 75 nautical miles total distance, with a full-stop landing at a minimum of two points and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 25 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations, and
  • (iv) 2 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in §61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.

 The point is probably mute since I would likely require 20 more hours before taking a check ride.  The concern I have is the LSA type aircraft you were talking about, if it is a Grumman American A1A, A1AA or A1AB …. etc. I don’t believe it would qualify as LSA since the gross weight on the ones I have seen are 1500 or more and stall speed around 60 mph.  The trainer is the only one to come close but it’s gross is 1500.

I wish they did, I always liked the American Yankee; ie Grumman

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Mr. Rhodes serves as CFO of TCA as well as Managing Member of Rhodes Holdings LLC.

Mr. Rhodes previously was CEO & President of Avant Diagnostics, Inc., formerly known as American Liberty Petroleum Corp., from December 2013 through March 2015; Chairman / CEO of Systems Evolution Inc., a software engineering and business analysis consultancy, from November 1993 through December 2006; Managing Member of American Equity Fund LLC which provided financing for micro-capitalization companies (June 2012 – January 2015), founder of KnJ Management LLC which provided IT staffing (January 2004 – January 2006), founder of ART Services, Inc. which provided property management services (December 2003 – February 2007), partner at Software Integration Consulting Group (July 1993 – November 1993), and held positions at BSG Alliance/IT Group (May 1991 – June 1993).

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